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most of our subcontractors are in that area. we all live in san francisco. we pay property tax. we pay taxes. going back to residential construction and fees, every time we turn around, there is a new fee. it really does affect small business. you have your plumbers, your electricians. you look at a residential home and the amount of people that were in them, regardless of the size of it, it impacts everybody. we have kids in school in san francisco in the neighborhoods. and this is one more tax that is going to cripple our industry, which has been already decimated in the last two years, so please, consider what you are talking about and did a lot of thought because it really does affect the communities, the schools, the subcontractors we all work with, we all live with,
so please consider. director nolan: thank you. next speaker please. >> good afternoon. i'm a developer in the city. we've been trying our hardest to get the construction industry moving. our crews are out of work. there is a lot of subcontractor- related industries down in a grave stances because of the downturn in the economy. this legislation right now would cripple, on top of the hardship we are going through trying to get stuff moving, this is going to definitely crippled the whole process. i would beg you to defer this legislation and go through and out reach study analysis, which will, i'm sure, clarify the sense of where we are at.
when all the other government departments realize we are capped out with these right now. we cannot take any more. we need to get the industry moving. we need you guys to put this legislation behind us for a while. thank you. [-- >> [reading names] >> i'm a small developer, small builder here in san francisco. i live and work in san francisco. the people that work on my projects live and work in san francisco. this analysis on how much the industry can bear at this stage because of the situation with the economy right now. basically, i see it as another tax, and it is a job killer.
i think, obviously, we are going to be following this. there are going to be layoffs in the planning and building department. i think you've got to keep that in mind. thank you for your time. director nolan: thank you, sir. >> good afternoon, directors. san francisco bicycle coalition. we support this update. we have supported tidf for a long time. we are particularly supportive of the two corrections happening in this update. you have heard speakers speak to the inclusion of residential in the scope. it has long been inexplicable you could build a building on market street that is commercial markets face and the next or build a building and filled it with residences and have no tidf. that seems wrong, and this
proposal speaks to us, and we applaud that. obviously, the particulars of whether you are building a 1000- square-foot building or 40-foot tower might come to bear, so further review seems in order on that. the other big adjustment in this round is that we are discounting projects that have less or no parking. this is important recognition that parking is a trip generator. if you build an office building or residential building that is half parking, you will generate a lot of car trips. that will affect muni and street safety and generally be an impact. to the extent that every word products that have less or no parking, that is a very good thing, and it takes us towards a much more defensible and meaningful evaluation on transportation and hats. again, by coalition supports this. i understand, and we understand
you have to have more conversation with the community, but these a two important corrections to the longstanding tidf. >> anyone else who would like to turn in a speech here card at this point, please come forward. >> thank you for hearing this today. i am president of walk san francisco. the city has many expenses to keep it running. the transportation system, being, obviously, a very large expense that is needed to keep the city functioning. the reality is nobody wants to pay for it. nobody wants to pay bus fare. nobody wants to pay for parking. nobody wants to pay for taxes, but the reality is that as nice as it would be to say that we have the transportation system and we would love to just a
completely free, that is not possible. obviously, we have to pay for this room, for the drivers, for gas, maintaining buses, and things like that. i think that there is an inherent inequality when commercial office developers have to pay this fee and residential developers do not because both uses to generate trips, and i think that going in the direction of offering a discount to folks who built less parking is the right way to go. it is consistent with our transit first policy, and i do want to mention one small thing -- i do sympathize with the folks in the bill would association when they talk about outreach. it is something that i think
this agency needs to do a better job of. i'll leave it at that. thanks. director nolan: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i will fill out a speaker card in a minute. i woke up this morning at 5:30, and the "chronicle" was thrown at the front door, and when i opened it, i saw this article on those impact fees. you have to understand that the city -- when we say the city, we are talking about the people that work here. we cannot bear any more impact fees. i'm a contractor. i'm a developer. the people that buy the homes from us that we develop -- they add some much to the city by actually buying the homes. between property taxes, between working here, and what they get to the city. and you want to add so much more to it.
the planning department did an analysis, and they found that you just cannot bear any more in the city at the moment. there is a limit to what you can put on developments. what they've put on is even too much at the moment. because of the recession, there's nothing happening, so we cannot even judge the analysis that they have done, you know, because there is nothing happening. i implore you to forget about this and just leave everything the way it is. thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. i do want to thank you guys for continuing this item because, as some of the speakers said earlier, it is very important we
do have a copy of the legislation. i come to this room a lot for the planning commission, and there is always copies of the legislation right here. it is very important, and we have been the biggest stakeholders. dialogue is very important. when we see that we are getting hit with more fees, we get very nervous. a decisive steady says that we bear most of the impact fees in the neighborhood now. now, we're looking at more fees. so again, i think that we need to keep the dialogue open. but due process is very important. i found out about this thing this morning. i should have known about it three weeks ago, four weeks ago, and a lot of our members did work with mr. ford and his staff on this. they knew about this. they should have told us.
that is how you do it. we come to all this commissions. this is the first time we have never been notified. so thank you for the continuance. we look forward to further dialogue. >> thank you. first of all, i would like to say what was proposed today was an outrage. without any due process whatsoever, it was recommended for approval today. there is a sun shine in this city, it is renowned for sunshine, so we know what happened. this needed the input of stakeholders. what we need right now is a fee moratorium because the construction industry cannot bear any more. the problem is that you create a fee here. puc creates a fee over there. school board has another one. there is an accumulation, and
nobody knows what the other is, so there is a straw that breaks the camel's back, and this is the last straw on the camel's back. back in 2008, an economic analysis was done for the eastern neighborhood, and the maximum fee that could be imposed on projects back then was $8 per square foot based on the prices of 2008. the mayor's office of economic analysis say today that it will be 2016, 2017 before san francisco will be back to 2008 prices, said there's no way on a that was actual financial analysis back then that we could afford to pay any more fees. how can we afford to pay any more fees and have more unemployment? on top of that, to add insult to injury, this was going to be retroactively back to july 2010 when the fee deferral process
was approved by the board of supervisors. the process was a stimulus package that was supposed to try to help the industry move forward. so you could defer some fees. you take this to look backwards to try to force these, so i'm glad that you are continuing this hearing today. i think we need to shine some light on this. we need to get stakeholders involved, and i thank you for your time. >> good afternoon. >> i would like to start by addressing the effort put forward by staff. i do not expect staff to know the intricacies of our industry. nobody would. but when they are proposing such a fee, such changes, and my out of bounds to expect someone to verify the unemployment rates have exceeded 35%? -- am i out of bounds?
would it be too much for someone to check with the building department and verify statistics, and you would have seen that permits for new construction are down 9% from 2007? would it have been hard to come from the statistics? what about builders' groups? we were with you guys three or four weeks ago, and we had a very similar process mr. ford, your comments may have been appropriate, but the truth of the matter is -- and this is my opinion -- the if we were not here today, this would have been jammed through, and we would have been a day late and a dollar short. you cannot conduct legal hearings without having a copy of the legislation present for the public to review.
we were told that it was policy two hours ago by your staff. if anything should happen here, there should be a credit to our industry. we put the eyes and ears on our streets, we fill the sidewalks, we create vitality on the streets. the more eyes and ears on the sidewalk, the more vitality, the better the pedestrian experience is, the more people are going to rise your program, the more fees you will have to collect. director nolan: any other public comment? seeing none, public, this close. the direction coming out of this is there will be these meetings -- >> we are going to pull this back and correct what has occurred here. director nolan: get back to the policy and governance committee before it comes back to this board. >> i think there may be some work we need to do as a staff
before it even goes to policy and governance. we will have a solution or recommendation that does not require a great deal of analysis at that juncture. director nolan: i'm sure people are here today realize it will be difficult to craft something that works in everybody's interest, but we appreciate your input, and the lease commitment i think this board can make is to let everyone know they have been heard. ok, directors. >> i want to thank the folks who came down today. rather than getting into the merits of this, which we will discuss at a later time, i would like to pick up on ms. sheridan's point and make an institutional comment. we are a transit agency. we know who the transit stakeholders are. it is a relatively comfortable network, but we do on more than one occasion assess or consider fees that affect the building community, and this is, as she
correctly and others correctly noted, the second time we have had an outreach issue with this group. in the end, this is not our decision. it is the board of supervisors' decision. i would suggest that two members of the public who are interested in this. it may not be too early to start contacting your friends, but as an institutional matter, can we make an effort to create the memory that whenever something is coming up that is going to impact development fees, at the very least, called the residential builders association. this is the second time they have come down in force representing their membership very well, the second time that they have suggested that they are willing to work with is probably in a public out reach capacity, and i would just like to make sure that that message is not lost and that ms. sheridan is not down here giving us the same message a third time in the future. director nolan: as much as we
enjoyed seeing her. >> we love seeing her, but we like her smiling. >> director heinicke, your point was clearly made, and will not make that mistake again. director nolan: thank you all very much. i guess this concludes this part of the meeting. we will go to item 14. >> we are at this point of the agenda going to move back to item 12. director nolan: let me say why. we said that we were going to wait until 4:00, but supervisor campos' office would like to do this now, and we will do a closed session, which i expect will be extremely brief, after that. >> there are a number people outside who would like to come in. director nolan: come on in. >> have them come in and have them fill out cards. item 12 is authorizing the executive director to provide up to 12,000 youth passes per month
to the san francisco unified school district for the department of children, youth, and families from april to june 2011 for distribution to low- income students at no cost. director nolan: thank you. yesterday, i had occasion to meet with our mayor, and note that mayor lee is totally supportive of this proposal. my sense is this entire body here is supportive of it. i have not talked to everybody, but as a one-time thing at least, to make this happen for the rest of this year. i would be concerned if we view this as a precedent for going forward because budget considerations are tight, but someone mentioned earlier the idea of encouraging people to use the system, and that is good. i did not know if members of
commons at this point. >> i have one question which may help clarify and expedite this. as i read the report, not only does this serve the wonderful goal of allowing disadvantaged children access to transit, but as i read the report, there's actually no budget and five of this proposal. >> none whatsoever. you budgeted to have this expense this fiscal year and next fiscal year. director nolan: will take care of that after that. the administration of that? >> there's still discussion between the school administration and department of child services in terms of how to administer this. they will take care of it for this three months, and we will have to examine what happens next fall. >> i will state my own personal view. i do not mean to short circuit public comment, but i do not want folks to feel like they have to pass an early advocate when we are sort of already there, but i personally would support this proposal.
director nolan: i know several people have asked for a translator. if we could make it very clear that this will happen, and there's not a need to speak unless you really want to. this is supported by this board. we're glad you're here. love to see you. but if you want to have made some representative speakers. >> we do have some speaker cards. director nolan: go ahead. >> how many speakers are we going to have? >> until i get the speaker cards, i'm not quite sure. maybe it would be appropriate for a short break to allow them to get themselves organized in here. pardon? director nolan: nobody has been called yet. >> nobody has been called yet. >> carolyn, are there people out there who wish to come in? would you please let them know
director nolan: ok. >> this is the second time we have come to a hearing to talk about the fast passes. i'm here to ask you to please pass the fast passes, the free passes for youth. there are a lot of low-income people who are out of work and currently do not have money to provide their kids with fast as is. i have a daughter who is sick and is not able to work and does not have money to pay for a fast pass, so we wanted to ask your support. director nolan: thank you very much. maybe we could do a little line
or something. how about that? if you hear your name call, please line up. >> my name is karen. we have eight youth organization that power -- we have a youth organization that power, and they are all dedicated, and we urge you to pass the legislation to help them to have things like access to our community organizing meetings so that they can actively participate in their communities. thank you. >> [reading names] director nolan: good afternoon. >> good afternoon. i'm an organizer at power, people organized to women employment rights. we are happy today to be able to come to this meeting space and
be able to talk to you and encourage you to support the fast as program. this was a program that was already approved, so we have been working hard to have it implemented. a lot of us still want to talk to you about our experiences about having the fast passes and how that has impacted our families. we want to continue to encourage you there are a lot of issues impacting people of color. vostok consolidations -- bus stop consolidations. some people will be here today to talk about their experience getting to school.
we're going to bring them up to talk about their experiences and how it impacts their families. we encourage you to release support working class people who depend on the buses to get to work every day -- really support working class people who depend on the buses to get to work every day. they do not have another alternative. cars and bicycles are not an option for our families. we look forward to continuing to work, and that is what we wanted to say. director nolan: we do as well. next speaker. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, commissioners. we have done our committee outreach, and i looking at this already, free passage for
freeyouth, it would be a grit helpless -- free passage for the youth, it would be a great help for the families, so i thank you and commend you for your support, and i look forward to working with you in the future on similar concepts, and it would greatly help these families, and once again, thank you again. >> [reading names] director nolan: good afternoon >> greater than greater than i' -- good afternoon. >> good afternoon. i'm with tehe sro family's collaborative. we have partnered successfully with the school district to give these children who are
considered by the city of san francisco as being homeless access to transportation. i'm here to speak just about expanding the concept itself of the city for these children. a lot of our children have before receiving fast passes never gone outside their own neighborhood. this is something that allows them to be transit riders from a very young age, enjoy the city through transit, and really experience what san francisco has to offer that we all experience every day for all of our communities. the poorest of our communities, the most disenfranchised of our communities, and it is great, and i wanted to acknowledge the amazing work that has been done with the school district, with sfmta to put this first program in place, and we are really happy to see that we're coming to a place now, which,
hopefully april 1, we will have 12,000 kids benefit from this program and benefit from free fast basses. that is really exciting for us that another 12,000 people on top of the 1600 or 1700 that currently receive free fast passes through the homeless program, through sfusc will have the same experience. we are thankful for your support and your hard work on this issue and really wanted to thank the school district for all their hard work and staff at mta. director nolan: thank you. >> [reading names] >> [speaking spanish]
director nolan: thank you. gracias. >> we want to thank you for supporting the free fast passes for youth. this is a difficult time for a lot of our families, and families depend on transportation to get to work, schools, hospitals, and to be able to buy food, so we wanted to just thank you for air support. director nolan: thank you. >> [reading names] director